In defense of Tali/Shepard.

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2022.01.18 00:47 ChocoCake909008 In defense of Tali/Shepard.

Whenever someone here posts about Tali romance, there's usually at least one person that calls it gross, uncomfortable or even implies Shepard would be a sexual predator to pursue that. These same people often ignore that the Garrus/Tali romance which occurs if you romance neither of them raises similar questions.
However, I don't think its as bad as people make it out to be.
Tali is 22 at the start of Mass Effect according to most things I've read, though I can't find an official source for that. In any case, she's clearly intended to be a young adult. Her entire character arc in the first game is centered around the pilgrimage all quarians go on to mark the transition into adulthood. Shep is supposed to be 28, though I imagine his very successful military career has made him more mature than most people his age.
Notice that in ME1, she isn't a romance option, and a relationship between her and shep during that point in her life would certainly be questionable. There is a HUGE maturity gap, not just in age but in life experience. She's just starting her adult life whereas Shep has done more than most people will ever do in their entire lives. However, even at this point in the story, we see that Tali is a strong willed and independent person. While Shep does save her life, she isn't portrayed as a damsel in distress but instead an inexperienced person who merely got in over her head.
Mass Effect 2 takes place 2 years later, though Shepard was not conscious for that time period and is, in effect, the same 28/29 year old at the end of Mass Effect, mentally, physically and emotionally. Tali, on the other hand, has matured a lot. She finished her pilgrimage, and is in active military service. You first reunite with her leading troops on a dangerous mission. Her attitude has changed a lot in the two years, and you might notice she's more likely to challenge Shep than in the first game. Especially when it comes to the geth and legion. She's now supposed to be 24, and it seems she has enough maturity to maintain an adult relationship.
The only potentially problematic thing I see in this stage of the relationship is sex. She's putting herself under a HUGE risk to have sex with Shepard. While he does make it clear that she doesn't have to do this and that he doesn't want to put her in danger, I have to admit it does feel...icky to me in that sense. However, we see her do tons of research, consult a doctor, etc to figure out the safest way. It seems she's become emotionally mature enough to navigate this, so if she's done all the research and taken steps to lower the risk to something she can accept, I don't think its predatory at all on Shepard's part. It might be a bad decision, but its one she made with the proper education.
Mass Effect 3 takes place 6 months after Mass Effect 2. Tali actually outranks Shepard at this point, and it seems she's continued to become a more mature person as she navigates the Quarian military bureaucracy. She had a significant time apart from Shep, and it seems her feelings towards him didn't change at all during that time. She's a grown woman with a life of her own, that loves a man a few years older than her. Its not even a huge age gap, and the maturity gap starts to close up quickly. It just seems like two, independent adults that care for each other a lot.
Some things I haven't addressed above:
"Shepard watched her grow up, she's like his little sister"
Not really. She was already a young adult by the time he met her, and he didn't pursue a relationship until she was older. Other characters describe her like a little sister, but we get no indication that this is how Shepard feels about her. I assume its left up to the player to define that. Your out-of-game opinion is a very personal thing, and doesn't apply to others.
"Shepard is her superior"
Maybe? I'm not really sure how that works seeing as she isn't formally in Cerberus or the Alliance, but she is acting as a member of his crew and taking orders from him. However, I always assumed she was welcome to leave at any time and stayed because she wanted to. If we're going to raise questions over this, we have to question every romance in the series...which just isn't practical.
In conclusion, I don't see why some people act like its a creepy or unhealthy relationship. I'm not saying it has to be your taste, just that people aren't wrong for picking it.
I spent entirely too long writing this so I should end off here before I get embarrassed and delete it.
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2022.01.18 00:47 flamingtrashmonster How do I (25F) approach my fear of showing affection with my partner (36M)?

I’ve been with him for five months. I really like him.
My fear is getting in the way and running the risk of messing everything up. He’s had to gently point out more than once that I say things that make him uncomfortable - like saying things in a distant way, or coming off as cold at odd times. When he points it out I realize immediately that it’s the fear, and I adjust accordingly, but it’s at the point where it’s becoming quite scary.
I have no problem doing things for me, getting him gifts, physical affection, and the like. But I have to stop myself from downplaying anything I do. Like for example, if I get him favourite snacks from the grocery store, I have to stop myself from offhandedly saying I only stopped there because it was on the way home.
It’s because I hate myself really badly and instinctively think others will see my acts of affection as bad things. I’m also really really afraid of doing the wrong thing or making someone uncomfortable. I told him this and he’s been supportive but now it’s on me to change.
I’m worried push is coming to shove on a deeper level. I want to make sure it’s ok I call him my boyfriend (been avoiding label talks), so yesterday I asked him what I can call him. I was hoping he’d tell me what I wanted to hear, but he picked up on my avoidance immediately and just kept asking me what do I want to call him. We got nowhere as I choked up. Hell it took me multiple months just to bring the question up.
I’m so afraid of crossing a boundary. I want to say “I love you” but am waiting for him to say it. But I don’t think he’ll ever say it first with him knowing my hang ups and the fact I tend struggle to not go along with what someone says anyway.
So yeah… does anyone have any advice? I feel like I’m in a very scary pickle. I want to be open and spontaneous and carefree regarding my feelings about him, but with where things are going, we’re en route to enter a stalemate and that’ll be no fun for anyone.
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